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		<title>By: Donald K. Burleson</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeaftercoffee.com/2006/06/05/biometrics/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald K. Burleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach said,

&gt;&gt; A successful credential needs to be disposable.

I wonder if someone can elaborate on this.  From a database perspective, the immediate security question is verifying the real identity of a specific user, and I would think that the best proof of &quot;who I am&quot; might be persistent attributes such as fingerprint, facial recognition, retina and DNA.

I don&#039;t understand why security credentials need to be transient and &quot;disposable&quot;.  Can you educate me on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach said,</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; A successful credential needs to be disposable.</p>
<p>I wonder if someone can elaborate on this.  From a database perspective, the immediate security question is verifying the real identity of a specific user, and I would think that the best proof of &#8220;who I am&#8221; might be persistent attributes such as fingerprint, facial recognition, retina and DNA.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why security credentials need to be transient and &#8220;disposable&#8221;.  Can you educate me on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeaftercoffee.com/2006/06/05/biometrics/comment-page-1/#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A successful credential needs to be disposable.  If it is somehow compromised there has to be a way to change the credential.  Biometrics lack this by definition.

A &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yubanet.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/8/28878&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent article out of Clarkson University&lt;/a&gt; talks about how something as simple as Play-doh can defeat many fingerprint scanners.  

Obviously technology will improve in response to this, but as 2 cent solutions defeat million dollar research we should question why we&#039;re bothering with such a flawed and expensive plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A successful credential needs to be disposable.  If it is somehow compromised there has to be a way to change the credential.  Biometrics lack this by definition.</p>
<p>A <a href="http://www.yubanet.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/8/28878" rel="nofollow">recent article out of Clarkson University</a> talks about how something as simple as Play-doh can defeat many fingerprint scanners.  </p>
<p>Obviously technology will improve in response to this, but as 2 cent solutions defeat million dollar research we should question why we&#8217;re bothering with such a flawed and expensive plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald K. Burleson</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeaftercoffee.com/2006/06/05/biometrics/comment-page-1/#comment-1605</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald K. Burleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; I think you’d agree that it would be foolish to say this system could not be hacked. 

Gee, I hope not!  I toured NORAD 18 years ago and they used it, as well as in many classified systems and areas.  

http://dba-oracle.blogspot.com/2005/08/inside-norad-war-room.html

Personally, I think that the retinal scanners are also promising.  Here is where I think the technology is going, JMHO:

http://www.dba-oracle.com/art_dbazine_2020_p1.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; I think you’d agree that it would be foolish to say this system could not be hacked. </p>
<p>Gee, I hope not!  I toured NORAD 18 years ago and they used it, as well as in many classified systems and areas.  </p>
<p><a href="http://dba-oracle.blogspot.com/2005/08/inside-norad-war-room.html" rel="nofollow">http://dba-oracle.blogspot.com/2005/08/inside-norad-war-room.html</a></p>
<p>Personally, I think that the retinal scanners are also promising.  Here is where I think the technology is going, JMHO:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dba-oracle.com/art_dbazine_2020_p1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dba-oracle.com/art_dbazine_2020_p1.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeaftercoffee.com/2006/06/05/biometrics/comment-page-1/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is not only that the finger could be hacked (so to speak) but that perhaps the reader or even the software could be hacked or emulated.  Where there&#039;s a will there&#039;s a way.

Look at the evolution of magnetic credit card readers.  Twenty years ago it might have been just banks and stores that had them, but a year ago I made one of my own for less than $50.

I think you&#039;d agree that it would be foolish to say this system could not be hacked.  Most would even agree that it&#039;s just a matter of time.  Once hacked you can either change reader technology to compensate for the hack or abandon the biometrics.  Either solution is expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is not only that the finger could be hacked (so to speak) but that perhaps the reader or even the software could be hacked or emulated.  Where there&#8217;s a will there&#8217;s a way.</p>
<p>Look at the evolution of magnetic credit card readers.  Twenty years ago it might have been just banks and stores that had them, but a year ago I made one of my own for less than $50.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;d agree that it would be foolish to say this system could not be hacked.  Most would even agree that it&#8217;s just a matter of time.  Once hacked you can either change reader technology to compensate for the hack or abandon the biometrics.  Either solution is expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald K. Burleson</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeaftercoffee.com/2006/06/05/biometrics/comment-page-1/#comment-1566</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald K. Burleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that biometrics has been used by the government for decades, and they got around the forgery issue with machines that detect a &quot;live&quot; finger.  You cannot &quot;hack&quot; off someones finger and use it for access. . . . 

I wonder if that is where &quot;hacker&quot; originates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that biometrics has been used by the government for decades, and they got around the forgery issue with machines that detect a &#8220;live&#8221; finger.  You cannot &#8220;hack&#8221; off someones finger and use it for access. . . . </p>
<p>I wonder if that is where &#8220;hacker&#8221; originates?</p>
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